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First I was all like this (Raps looking to bundle Bargs & Calderon for a SF)...
http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-trade-...n-the-block-2/
Then I was like this...
Wait, we have a SF that needs to go. And a young replacement for Calderon and an expiring big (Max) to replace Bargs for TDot.
Then I was all like this...
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=czq62u5
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You decreased their wins by 6, you fgt
That's success for now, friend.
I wish we had -6 wins this year.
I like the deal. Why do they do it?
Bargs is chirping and prolly wants out. They want a SF (Tay). They, like us, need to make moves via trades cuz free agents don't want to sign. They get a young combo guard in Stuckey. Expiring deal with Max.
Basically, what I said earlier.
Snarky for all the lazy abbreviations and assumed connections you made.
Eliminate Prince and Maxiell for Bargnani, and add our 2nd round pick this year, and I'm good. I'd hate to lose Prince for nothing. This team needs him.
Maggette, Stuckey and Maxiell for Bargnani and Calderon?
Bargs would be our "stretch" 4 after we amnesty Nova... and we'd get the Bird Rights on Calderon:
Drummond/Monroe
Monroe/Bargnani
Prince/Jerebko
Singler/English
Knight/Calderon
we'd draft the best SG/SF and roll with that group, banking on the growth of our youth
I don't like the fact our veterans (Prince, Bargs and Calderon) have been losers for so long but you can't always get what you want
Toronto's need to parlay Bargs & Calderon into a quality SF is not quenched by a washed up Corey Maggette.
Unless you/they think Stuckey can be that SF.
Or I think they can move DeRozan to SF... or I think they can get that SF through the Draft...
Essentially they swap Bargnani for Stuckey as all the other players are expiring and will be leaving their current teams anyway. Sure the theory is that you need to get quality players for your expirings but that assumes anyone else is willing to give up quality to rent a player for a few months.
Bargs has a worse contract than Stuckey so if the Raps didn't wanna do this fuck 'em!
what exactly are the piston's doing this trade for?
so we can pay bargs a shitload of money to lose games?
To get a do-over on Prince and Stuckey's contracts, get a starting-quality PG that can either be re-signed to back up Knight at a lower salary or used in a S&T for another asset, and to get a developing, young lottery-talent stretch big that needs a change of scenery?
Ok. I just don't value bargs nearly as much. actually, I view him as a negative and I would want no part of him. I would rather have prince.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gla
Bargs off the bench wouldn't be that bad... certainly would help spread the floor for Monroe and Drummond when he was on the floor...
and we get Calderon! Dude might be 32 or whatever but he knows how to run a fucking offense!
I can see Bargs being the Memo we couldn't keep.
we would get half a season of calderon.
we would be stuck with bargs for 3, and he makes a shitload of cash.
i really don't like it.
I'm assuming we'd keep Calderon beyond his current contract
You're assuming we wouldn't keep Calderon beyond his current contract
You're also assuming Bargs would suck as a Piston
You're also assuming that we will sign "better" players than Bargs and Calderon this off-season
The group of players available as free agents isn't all that impressive... getting Bargs and Calderon with our space wouldn't be too bad
Drummond/Monroe/Slava
Monroe/Bargs/Jerebko
Prince/Singler/Jerebko/Middleton
Draft/Stuckey/English
Knight/Calderon/Stuckey
Bargs and Calderon isn't what I would want with all our cap space but it's better than most of the shit available in free agency...
then again this is just an idea.... not a great one but certainly not a bad one.
Personally I prefer the Rondo and Gay and Drummond scenario :)
bargs would be getting over 10 million to come off the bench.
the pistons could sign calderon after this season and not trade a damn thing for him.
even outside of rondo and gay, there is still better options to trade for than bargs.
You mention better trade options.... who? what? where?
I'm a little bit isolated here in OZ...
other than the Cousins stuff I haven't read any trade rumours for the Pistons
rumors? i got none. you obviously have the internet, so you would know just as soon as I would when they happen. I just know of 500 or so active players in the NBA there has to be a better trade than a giant ass contract for a weak ass big guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pharaoh
I hope so... I'm kind of hoping Joe makes a deal prior to the deadline with some of our expirings...